but Turkish people have a role to play we know they know that the masterminds are here CIA / NATO the deep state the operation Gladio be they know the network's head is here in the United States and United States has been harboring this terrorist this mullah this Ayatollah in the United States you're listening to the Corbett report welcome friends this is james corbett of corbettreport.com coming to you in a special joint production with news vidcom today we're going to be talking to Sibel Edmonds and Spiros chorus about the topic that has taken over the news headlines over the weekend and that is the attempted Turkish coup that took place on Friday and was quickly quelled but certainly has created a stir and is going to have geopolitical ramifications in the coming weeks and months for sure it's an interesting situation especially because we were talking about it six or seven months ago here on the corporate report and on boiling frogs post calm with Sibel I wrote a newsletter editorial back in the beginning of December of 2015 is erdowan being set up for a NATO backed coup and then a couple of weeks later sibel and I talked about that very possibility in an interview that we recorded towards the end of December I mean is it inevitable that Iran is being targeted here and that he's going to go down and if so how does that play out because they finally got to the point where they divided the country so much internally and the opposition so he does not enjoy what he enjoyed two three years ago he still had the majority support that support has been diminished is far below 50% now and he's going to be replaced with someone much worse I can guarantee you that because history repeats itself in these countries with someone like the his predecessors and I don't know if it's going to be a direct military coup but the Jay Happ a CHP party that the debtor secularist a behind the scenes some of the powerful factions within CHP they have formed Alliance with Gulen movement which is which is mind-boggling I'm talking about the most secularist party forming alliance with the mullah who is who is advocating for fundamentalism fethullah gulen i never thought i would see such day that these two will will will both full force join forces and so you're going to see something like that and but things are going to get worse we're going to have more terror events in Turkey it's going to happen and it's going to come from many sides there's going to be the the Kurdish size that of course all the stuff that they are blaming on Isis it's it's going to be Messier but he's going and Sibel Edmonds was even more explicit in an interview that she talked she recorded with Lew Rockwell a little later on you are looking at a country that is about to economically collapse any time now and and your question was on aired one and when you asked for what's happening and what's going to happen with everyone that's going to be the major factor determining what's going to happen with aired ones administration they have formed this date on November 7th or 28th for the election but if this economic collapse happens before then let's say by October which is highly likely that it will it will take place then you may look at the big major possibility of a period of pure chaos and violence followed by possibly another military coup in Turkey which will be the operation Gladio and the rulers basically taking back the Turkish government so perhaps this is not surprising but it is interesting that the way this all played out so now we're going to have to try to sort out what is actually happening in Turkey what just took place what is about to take place and who are the real players here who was really behind what happened in Turkey over the weekend and who is really in control at this point it seems to be Irwin and his faction have re regained control but we need to understand these events in a bit greater context so let's bring in Civ elements to this conversation so we can talk about these events in more detail all right we are working obviously with a moving news story so by the time that you guys see this who knows where this story will have moved on to but at this point we know that Iran is pointing a finger at Fethullah Gulen who again should be very familiar to viewers of my conversations with Sibel over the years and Gulen of course is saying not me Vernon probably staged this himself there are interesting elements pointing to well probably both of those possibilities being at least somewhat true but I want to get cybele's take on this sibel let's start by breaking down the events of Friday your thoughts on the way this played out and how it either goes with or goes against the narrative that we're being told about this being some sort of spontaneous uprising by some angry military personnel well thank you James as you just mentioned the story and the facts and the storyline keeps evolving and it has changed to a certain degree since Friday but as we see it is changing on hourly basis and just a quick note a lot of people have been making comments about oh I'm an Oracle and and I predicted looking at my crystal balls but if they did listen to that interview we had to that discussion they would see that we basically connected the dots and that was a pretty much educated yes educated prediction of where things were being led to as you know they started in 2012-2013 with those famous Taksim Square protests were mostly designed by Gulen and when we say Gulen you're looking at an 80 year old senile guy he is just a figurehead he is a station here in the United States he's been in the United States since 1997 he lived in several castles his castles are protected by security guard Apache helicopters his nest Ward for his NGOs and foundations for this molecule and is estimated around 22 to 28 billion dollars he owns and operates this terrorist this mullah Gulen the largest charter school chain inside the United States and together with his CIA handler he's been establishing hundreds of mosques in Central Asia in caucuses even in the African continent in Indonesia so and he's been living in the United States while wanted in Turkey as a terrorist since 1997 okay so those protests were quashed and after that we saw this escalation you and I with all the propaganda during the elections as the elections neared so that was another attempt by the CIA NATO and Gulen faction to sway the public opinion and basically defeat or take aired one of power that didn't succeed despite all the trials all the mainstream media propaganda especially here in the United States but to a certain degree with the english-language version of Turkish mainstream media who and the bit operatives were linked directly to Gulen and the CIA here and all the think tanks that you and I have been talking about and that was when I predicted predicted that since the other attempt failed those would have been some sort of fast coup the next step would be attempting a coup a military coup and Turkey is not unfamiliar Turkey has gone through five coos before and the 1980 school was the biggest one and the coup was implemented by United States by NATO using Turkish military because Turkish military is mainly on their United States and NATO not on the paper not according to the bylaws in Turkey but that's how it's been for several decades okay as a NATO member Turkish military takes their order the military from us at NATO so all the other things are kind of more cosmetic election and presidents etc yeah they have some role within the internal politics well when it comes to really big decisions when it comes to really big implementations of big game plans you're looking at Turkish military so on Friday we just found out through the Twitter and through the u.s. ministry media here that that coup was in play and interestingly as you would observe with many coos around the world especially those implemented by military / you know CIA deep state they always take place at night why because they want to take advantage of the time of the day when people are in bed so by the time they wake up in the morning it's all done deal okay then they go about establishing curfew and that usually lasts in 1980 when I was in Turkey glasses for three four years in certain areas the curfew until they establish themselves well this fits depth particular pattern and then of course we started seeing the site warfare this was not present in 1982 in Turkey there were no social media there were no Twitter there was there was we didn't have any Facebook but Spiro and I spent that entire day in front of the monitor in front of our computer and we are checking all the information that is being poured into the social media channels such as Twitter and lo and behold we see this twit popping saying everyone has trying to escape the country he is flying all over Germany can't land he wants to have asylum in Germany the moment we saw this twit it was psych warfare written all over it because what would you like to do to demoralize people and make the coup successful you either false informations declared the leader dead and that is amazingly effective because people get demoralized they're saying it's a done deal we don't even have a leader anymore or they say your leader ran away he left you and he wants to go and get asylum in the UK or United States or Germany which they tried to do so at that point I started chasing these twitter and saying where's your source and where is the link where are you getting this information to just show you how the phases of coup has changed or the implementation tactic now it's even in a way stronger more multi fronted because social media as it did with Arab Spring as it is momentarily when we were seeing that possible Iran is for Fink use of Twitter and Facebook to help the coup succeed by spreading rumor by spreading misinformation well it's it's very interesting and you're absolutely right in we have seen time and time again in countries like Turkey specifically social media being shut down completely and that is obviously going to control an influence a lot now these these tweets that you were talking about talking about Berta Wan fleeing the country and trying to seek asylum in Germany you you had called it right away that this was a PSYOP and it definitely appeared to be it still appears to be that way and I had looked into the original source of this information and from the best that I can tell the first person tweeting about this is a guy named Kyle Griffin and he is he works for MSNBC is a producer and he tweeted out this was mid coup that a senior US military source tells NBC News that Iran refusing landing rights in ýstanbul and is reportedly seeking asylum in Germany now this was taking place as the coup was taking place the attempted coup there had not been any word yet from Iran or the government there that at this point in time the the coup plotters had already taken over the the press they went in and took shut down the media outlets and they were saying that they had declared victory basically at this point so this like as you said wasn't injected it appears to be injected at this key specific point to try to stifle any kind of resistance to the coup so it makes me question well who is this military source and and why is why are they saying this why is MA MSNBC running with this NBC running with this and then before you know it like you said it was everywhere it was being tweeted everywhere and then the jokes followed Oh Berta ones the first Muslim who has had been refused to siloam in Germany at all of you know all of that but very interesting it is interesting but we can and there were people who were actually tracking his flight in real time on flightradar24 whatever that site is that shows that he really was circling around for a while and obviously not able to land so something was happening and it's interesting that of course that idea just gets floated and it seems to make sense so it gets picked up and then rebroadcast out without anyone really checking what the source of that information is I think again that is modus operandi for an operation like this that of course raises the specter of the deep state and who was really in control of what was going on during those hours and I think the most intriguing possibility of all of this is that the one that is now it's now being floated in the mainstream and I hope we don't need to point this out for our listeners but I think it's incumbent on us to point out the hypocrisy of the mainstream media that the idea that this could be a coup that was staged by Iran himself in order to crack down an opposition is perfectly conceivable and allowable because Iran is on the hit list he is a bad guy but if this was an American friend or ally oh my god the idea oh you're such a conspiracy theorist what a crazy person you are so of course this is an allowable conspiracy theory because Iran is on the hit list but it is one that does have a certain degree of if not a ring of truth to it at least it makes sense if you are one and you know that there is a faction that is plotting your overthrow wouldn't it make sense to get ahead of that to stage or encourage this little bit of the military to do this little show coup so that you can then crack down on everyone else which of course is exactly what's happening now thousands of people being rounded up and her Diwan probably has a tighter grip now than he has in yours so it does make sense from that perspective sibel what's your what's your feeling on this idea well I would I would distinguish between stage versus some foreknowledge because air go on for the past three years justifiably have been trying to clean house because as we have received this is documented fact a certain percentage of military has been in filter by CIA Yulin network a very large percentage of Turkish police force and this is over 20 25 years period people that they have been info stations has been infiltrated by Julian CIA Network same thing with the courts and every time he attempted he being aired one even with facts and evidence rounding up these people and removing them from the position well that was used especially by the Western media and the and the extension of Gulen network including many media organizations in Turkey that are still under the control of Gulen movement it became bad PR he is being dictator look at this he's removing secular thinking people from the military because he wants to bring Sharia law now the real Sharia law actor for the CIA happens to be mullah qn the man who lives in the united states and gets to be every day more powerful a man who is taking hundreds of US elected US representatives into fancy schmancy expensive trips a man who got goes and builds madrasahs around the world that's a Sharia man CIA Sharia man accusing everyone of being a dictator and we have been watching it unfold James this way the idea the notion the rule of the coup being staged was has been floating for quite a while I would say close to a year even when I was in Turkey last year there were people who were whispering they were saying the election it didn't work it didn't work with organizing protests basically they're going to come like they did in 1980s and we're going to have a military coup well of course they have had foreknowledge how can you keep quiet especially in a place like Turkey in Turkey we tend to talk run our mouth as other audience know with me so would he be would it be smart wouldn't you do it if you were in the position James to say you know what this is a perfect opportunity let them come in let us show the public what they are trying to do who they are and then without that bad PR we can round them up and clean house and the whole thing is though if you were to ask me so this is over arrow on one it's under control I would say definitely no because this did not seem to be the scale in the scale off and the well-planned real coup I think this was their dry one I think this was a warm-up coup and the real big coup is still on its way against erred one maybe with this one and this is a maybe I'm putting a hypothesis label on this maybe it was too you know how you check the patient's pulse to see what kind of shape that person is maybe they're trying to really take the pulse of the nation to see whether or not they are going to really opposed the coup where is going to be the public opinion where it's going to be the public stand what kind of holes would be in the plan so looking at the small scale of it and in some ways some sloppy nature that that this could carry unlike the Queen 1980s I would say this was the experimental warm-up coup to lead to a bigger coupe now in this case the people in Turkey they played a major role and and that has been shown basically these enemies of everyone the the Western countries NATO that it's not going to be that easy I mean you have these people despite all the tanks pouring out on the street listening to air go on saying don't stay home get out and fight it get out and fight it because no matter how big of the military we are talking about how big of an FBI think about millions of people what kind of power they would have despite the tanks and the guns and the Turkish people the supporters the Nationalists they listen to that and they did exactly that now this is in a way a positive thing to show because the spear and I were talking about this and we said would we see similar kind of reaction in the u.s. if we had a situation like this or would people go with their little cell phone under the bed and say wake me up or let me know when it's over so I can get out because it's so dangerous out there I mean 270 plus people lost their lives these people actually they climb these tanks okay and they were not armed because they don't you know they did they don't have their gun rights in Turkey so it was their fist it was their arms it was their it was their determination to say I'm going to put my life on the line to stop these cool it cool that is being planned by the outside nations and of course as you just said James the ways being portrayed in the United States is just amazing not amazing to you and I but amazing that it is still being tried because imagine Americans there is an outside nation that infiltrates this military and says you go there and create this coup in the United States we would want those people home we would want that nation to be nuked and and and and yet they are forming and shaping the public opinion in the Western countries as here's a staged event by air duan and turning the chamber hopes and they're making it about him being an evil all right the Nick the question about the next step I think is extremely important here because as you say if this was just a practice run or a warm-up then I guess the question is what happens between now and then in terms of cleaning house and we are seeing thousands of people being rounded up right now but the most important part of this potentially is Gulen and what happens as you say a figurehead as senile old figurehead at this point but still the the central part of the the faction the CIA faction that's that's working you answered one right now now there has been a lot of talk about Gulen extradition and calling for his extradition but there has been no formal extradition call yet at least as we're recording this the latest from stars and stripes stripes calm july 17th 2016 Kerry says US awaits formal request for gulen extradition saying that we have not had a formal request for extradition this has to come in a formal package give us the evidence show us the evidence we need a solid legal foundation that meets the standard of extradition in order for our courts to approve such a request is this really going to go ahead is is the erdowan government going to make a formal extradition call for Gulen and if so how does the u.s. counter that of what's going to be the next step in all of this well these were loaded questions James I will I will basically chop it in three segments in order to answer it comprehensively as far as I have been reading especially since 2013 Turkish Justice Department Department of Justice Department in Turkey at Leah bacana they have been sending all the things that are being requested by the FBI and the Justice Department here on festal ocula okay and so of course the bureaucracy is playing oh they didn't maybe tick this boss with a box so we're going to send it back or maybe the signature was kind of faded so we are still looking to authenticate the signature of the person who authorized this extradition request that's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard Turkey has been on the record demanding this man's extradition not only that this terrorist Mulligan who operates the biggest charter school chain in the United States has been under the FBI investigation for money laundering and all sorts of other criminal activities since 2009 2010 I mean you're looking an organization that is linked to so many different kinds of terror fighting and things money laundering and and also extreme spreading extreme ideas they're operating centered in the United States I think as far as the extradition is concerned what we will be seeing is even if they say oh now we have the formal extradition request they can sit on that and make it last four to three years because they're going to give him an opportunity to appeal that and then after that to appeal that particular decision so they can drag it at least for two years but I have seen and heard people floating the idea that his health has been deteriorating Festool ocula the more likely scenario is he's going to die you know he's going to have a stroke be hospitalized or just die while all this extradition tango dancers take in place for show only between Turkey and the United States but the most important point here is whether with you lands extradition being formalized acknowledged by the United States or not the real coup is not the one was that was pride that we saw on Friday it is not over Turkish people should not let their guard down they should not get comfortable and say hooray we have rounded up twenty five hundred three thousand people the number then we are looking realistically for un network including all the judges including I mean you're looking at his own National Security Adviser that being the snake that they just arrested it's far bigger than 2,500 or 3,000 but also we should pay attention close attention to other signs out there indicating the coming coup the real stuff for example they just declared that out of the injure late NATO base this is the securest airbase of the planet I would say even more secure than the one we see in the United States forty two helicopters missing they walked out forty two helicopters from NATO's in julik base and even though for the past half century the United States and its allies NATO allies they have been keeping quiet how many nuclear warheads they have put inside the turkey okay and it's not only injure like military airbase as they are advertising Turkey has had nuclear warheads for a long long time just like Israel issue that has been always kept quiet and the ones a ninety plus one the NATO air base is justified as NATO air base if you pay close attention James they keep floating now you know these nuclear warheads what is Isis gets there okay think about this air base that has weather the entire Cold War era with no penetration no danger right all the al-qaeda's stuff the military coup and before that the energy period in Turkey and now suddenly you see them advertising the importance of the nuclear warheads in indirect base in Turkey that is significant that is going to be tied to the coming coup because that would justify NATO and allies action because they have to go there remove air dwande keep the country secure so that we won't be nuked that's what they're going to use and where the heck those 42 helicopters are today and how the heck can you take out 42 helicopters from one of the most secure airbase in the world so that's the kind of a BS line that they are selling the mainstream media to the people but Turkish people have a role to play we know they know that the masterminds are here CIA / NATO the beep state the operation Gladio be they know the network's head is here in the United States and United States has been harboring this terrorist this mullah this Ayatollah in the United States and and they can put pressure on aired WOD or facilitate his maybe already existing desire of playing tough because Turkey camp later why did why don't they shut down the US consulate in Turkey wouldn't we have done that let's say in the United States if it was we didn t shut down Iran's embassy and consulates declared them as an enemy working against the United States they can put pressure on the United States in fact they should shut down the base and say it can't be operational they can shut down the US consulate and there are enough Turkish people here that can actually assert some level of influence they know where his has foundations quarters are school and they are trying to implement warm up coup and then a big coup I mean Turks are they can be in some regards very brave and they should come and take their man put them in big crease and take them back into Turkey and hang them but there are things that people can do in Turkey and it's time for them to get tough and just go beyond talking to talk we have those great people who truly put their lives on the line these people is not political ideology it was saying we are not going to have foreign powers coming and implement couth here in our country I think the point is early one's never gonna do that Erna one's never gonna kick the u.s. out never gonna close down the embassies he's never going to withdraw from NATO this is I mean if he was going to do that he would have done it by now but the people can I mean think about this he what okay let's say this is a short-term victory for air dog well who brought this victory forever it was the people it was those people that they poured out on the street so if everyone is not going to do it Turkish people and I will tell you you may be seeing it two days from now they can go and shut down the embassy in fact the embassy people will evacuate because when this is what's happening directed towards Turkey I don't think the United States embassy or consulate has any right to exist or operate in Turkey and that would be the public opinion in Turkey if everyone doesn't shut down at least maybe you would stand on the side and watch people do it okay maybe it's time for helicopters to go and evacuate the personnel including the CIA personnel directing facilitating this warm-up cool kick them out of the country okay can they do that of course you know they keep showing the Iran hostage taking situation they never show what the United States States did to Iran via its embassy and Ana CIA headquarter for Iran being stationed in the embassy that is being censored that's never talked about well the same thing many of the CIA operatives many of you lambs handlers they operate in Turkey so Turkish people can go shut down military attache in Ankara the embassy can they do it you put out there 15,000 people and I will see how fast they are going to run for their lives it would make some interesting parallels for the Jimmy Carter of 2016 aka Brock Obama to end up with a hostage crisis at the end of his administration I don't know it's very interesting I have no idea whether this is likely to play out this way as you say but it is certainly something that is possible as you say because it was it really was the people that really did make the deciding difference on Friday and you're right if they had just cowered under the bed and waited for the morning things might look very different in Turkey right now so I guess you you certainly have a point there all right is there any other points that you or Spiro would like to make before we start wrapping up here I know Spiro has a couple of good points on all the links between theft to law school and and I'm going to let him address that we were just sitting and reading up on bet to law school and Foundation and his connection to Clintons both Clinton's Hillary Clinton's and her foundation but there are enough Turkish people here I know some of them are dual and supporters but there are Turkish people in the United States I would tell you that this guy Fethullah Gulen he he has several headquarters because he has several foundations and NGOs they are here in the United States and as FBI has declared they are under investigation and they can show some muscles and they can demand their own demands Turkish people to go after him here so they are not extraditing this man who's already criminally under investigation by the FBI they maybe take notice taking notice of some people going and targeting you lands facility in the United States for a man known to be terrorist and I think us would have a hard time while I was investigating this terrorist this mullah to say that okay if you are going to protect he's not even a US citizen so that's something that people should not disregard because their elements are active out there they can raise their voice and their presence people here and target Guillen's facility and I also would like to issue this call for all these unknowing parents who are sending their children to a charters all operated by worldwide renowned terrorists Ayatollah mullah who is most wanted okay so you're looking at a sanction bin Laden to a certain degree because some of these madrasahs as we spoke about this James they are also training camps for terrorists weathers for Chechens or for some other factions that now they are pouring into Syria before that they were going and joining al-qaeda in the Balkans and remember Operation Gladio be started 1996-1997 this was during Clinton's watch okay this was not during the bush or Obama watch this operation started in 1996 1997 and spec to lock you land was brought in with a CIA Gulf Stream planes while he was most wanted in Turkey into the United States in 1997 on their Clinton's watch he was harbored as a terrorist even though it's Turkey was a NATO ally by Bill Clinton and Clinton's people so people really need to take note of these facts because these are documented facts just go and check we have covered it we have provided the links and I would let Spiro finish up with the many links of fester lucky land to Clinton and Clinton family well I think you covered it pretty well there Sibel actually the Clinton Foundation's and Fetty lucky lands foundations have been working together throwing money at others way and it's just another example of how these families and like the Clintons these dynasties have been around for a long time and they have their hands and everything behind the scenes and this woman is getting is running for president in this country in the US and so it's just it's alarming to me the it says a lot about the state that this country is in and how these people essentially are above the law and dual an and the clintons and many others are perfect examples of that and they're working together and these agencies are involved and they're influencing or trying to influence other countries and what's taking place there without considering the the residents of those countries there that are irrelevant so they're just going to push and then keep pushing in the military industrial complex is going to continue to gain you know if we see NATO and everyone in F course Isis next we're going to hear that Isis is behind the attempted coup in Turkey I mean what's next so they want boots on the ground in Syria and and they're going to kind of keep pushing so that's a we'll have to see I'm sure a lot more is going to unfold here pretty soon well that is obviously correct because again what happens in Turkey has ramifications throughout the entire region and also of course what's going on in Syria and so there are a lot of different different agendas that play here and as I think Sibel rightly points out the nuclear issue is going to be the one of the main cards that's played I've certainly seen it played in numerous times this weekend now they're suddenly talking about nukes in Turkey where they haven't talked about that that for decades and decades but suddenly it's an issue clearly there is some some major moves afoot in the region and obviously this is going to be playing out in the next few weeks and months even the next few days could be extremely interesting so we'll be keeping our eye on it here at corbettreport.com I'm sure at news but calm also so people can stay tuned for updates there anything else you guys would like to say before we say goodbye my condolences to the families who lost their family members loved ones during this less than 12 hours coup attempt and again I would like to repeat that people are not powerless they have shown at times and time again in in Turkey and they of course can expect and demand the authorities in Turkey to act upon this and shut down US facilities in Turkey until until they get satisfactory result and get these people back up it's their sovereignty and Turkey's sovereignty any nation's sovereignty needs to be respected and if they don't get that I believe Turkish people have to take it into their own hands and say okay we are going to go and shut down the enemy camps because that's what we would declare you would call them MNM II camps and currently the role the US Ministry media's playing and the United States government is against the interests of the people people democratically elected whether we like are gone or not I'm not saying I am in love with everyone it is people elected him that was people's choice you don't respect it shut down the United States Embassy shut down the United States conflict shut down the King tanks because that's another place where a hardware and I know exactly which ones they are we will talk about it the CIA operatives many of them operate through at the Sheikh consulates and the US Embassy but many of the NGOs especially the solos funded ones they do issue get issued diplomatic passports and they funnel CIA operatives into Turkey so the Turkish people can take it upon their own hands and go and shut down these Hornets nests and start doing get demanded if you're president if your Parliament is not doing it you take it to your own hands into your own hands and shut down these institutions until they respect your sovereignty all right well that's quite the rousing call so we'll leave it there Spiros kurrus Sibel Edmonds thank you for your for your information and I hope 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